So, Stephen & me are going to try out Dommel for our internet... Have a look at : http://www.dommel.com/en/adsl/netconnect.php?cust=home --> 29€ for which you should get : * 0€ activation * 12 mbps max d/l speed (this is a maximum value, not a garantueed one, as always I suppose) * 200 gb d/l each month, with a 50% ratio between 1am and 1pm --> maximum 400 gb. * .be domain * and the coolest thing, click on "add-on features" : "boost pack : experience an unlimited (so no fup, as used by other isp's, but really unlimited) download, 4 simultanious pppoe passthrough sessions allowed : 6,00 euro/month and 9,95 euro activation fee" Taking the phone line for 5€, assuming you don't have one, you end up with 29+5+6 = 40€ if you want unlimited d/l, or 34€ for 200-400 gb, and 0+10 = 10€ activation. Too good to be true? I'll let you know... Sofie -- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
Hi, didn't Nicky Van Thuyne also have dommel? Maybe you can already ask 'm if it's too good to be true ;) -Kenny On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
So, Stephen & me are going to try out Dommel for our internet...
Have a look at : http://www.dommel.com/en/adsl/netconnect.php?cust=home --> 29? for which you should get :
* 0? activation * 12 mbps max d/l speed (this is a maximum value, not a garantueed one, as always I suppose) * 200 gb d/l each month, with a 50% ratio between 1am and 1pm --> maximum 400 gb. * .be domain * and the coolest thing, click on "add-on features" : "boost pack : experience an unlimited (so no fup, as used by other isp's, but really unlimited) download, 4 simultanious pppoe passthrough sessions allowed : 6,00 euro/month and 9,95 euro activation fee"
Taking the phone line for 5?, assuming you don't have one, you end up with 29+5+6 = 40? if you want unlimited d/l, or 34? for 200-400 gb, and 0+10 = 10? activation.
Too good to be true? I'll let you know...
Sofie
-- ================================================================== Kenny Billiau Web Developer Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM kenny.billiau@ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ================================================================== "What we feel isn't important. The only question is what we do." -- Rohl
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
So, Stephen & me are going to try out Dommel for our internet...
Have a look at : http://www.dommel.com/en/adsl/netconnect.php?cust=home --> 29€ for which you should get :
* 0€ activation * 12 mbps max d/l speed (this is a maximum value, not a garantueed one, as always I suppose) * 200 gb d/l each month, with a 50% ratio between 1am and 1pm --> maximum 400 gb. * .be domain * and the coolest thing, click on "add-on features" : "boost pack : experience an unlimited (so no fup, as used by other isp's, but really unlimited) download, 4 simultanious pppoe passthrough sessions allowed : 6,00 euro/month and 9,95 euro activation fee"
Taking the phone line for 5€, assuming you don't have one, you end up with 29+5+6 = 40€ if you want unlimited d/l, or 34€ for 200-400 gb, and 0+10 = 10€ activation.
Too good to be true? I'll let you know...
Sounds great. Apparently very similar but slightly cheaper than the EDPnet I'm now using. To compare: -12 Mbps is indeed the maximum speed you can get with ADSL, unless you live really close to central (<1km). To compare: only with cable (Telenet) you can get up to 15 Mbps. I've read promises about a technical upper limit of 24Mbps, but living within a range of 1km to the central at Sint Pieters station, I think that's exaggerated. -200 GB ... damn, I'm 'only' getting 100 (but for now, even when downloading much, not getting there yet). Same night fee applies. -phone line for 5 EUR: are you getting this one from Bommel itself? I had a look around and I have to pay 13 EUR/month for the raw copper when ordering it from EDPnet itself, which I choose to just get one simple bill. Skynet (Belgacom) does it slightly cheaper (11 EUR/month)... and in the end EDPnet just sends someone from Belgacom to enable your line. So a line for 5 EUR seems really cheap. -Included is also a .be domain and unlimited mailboxes (according to fair use policy and plus 1 GB web storage). No activation cost if you have a 'friend' who makes you customer, 20 EUR if you don't have friends. So for EDPnet, I'm paying 42 EUR/month: 29 EUR for the subscription, 13 for the raw copper line. Seeing that these specs are rather close to the ones you describe, I don't think it's too good to be true. I'm only surprised about the phone line price, so that might be worth a switch for me if things haven't changed next year. Enjoy, and start downloading, T. -- ================================================================== Thomas Van Parys Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM thomas.vanparys@psb.vib-ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ==================================================================
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
So, Stephen & me are going to try out Dommel for our internet...
Have a look at : http://www.dommel.com/en/adsl/netconnect.php?cust=home --> 29€ for which you should get :
* 0€ activation * 12 mbps max d/l speed (this is a maximum value, not a garantueed one, as always I suppose) * 200 gb d/l each month, with a 50% ratio between 1am and 1pm --> maximum 400 gb. * .be domain * and the coolest thing, click on "add-on features" : "boost pack : experience an unlimited (so no fup, as used by other isp's, but really unlimited) download, 4 simultanious pppoe passthrough sessions allowed : 6,00 euro/month and 9,95 euro activation fee"
Taking the phone line for 5€, assuming you don't have one, you end up with 29+5+6 = 40€ if you want unlimited d/l, or 34€ for 200-400 gb, and 0+10 = 10€ activation.
Too good to be true? I'll let you know...
Sounds great. Apparently very similar but slightly cheaper than the EDPnet I'm now using.
To compare:
-12 Mbps is indeed the maximum speed you can get with ADSL, unless you live really close to central (<1km). To compare: only with cable (Telenet) you can get up to 15 Mbps. I've read promises about a technical upper limit of 24Mbps, but living within a range of 1km to the central at Sint Pieters station, I think that's exaggerated.
-200 GB ... damn, I'm 'only' getting 100 (but for now, even when downloading much, not getting there yet). Same night fee applies.
We plan to start of with the 200 gb and see whether we ever reach the limit and get irritated. If so, we might go for the unlimited one :)
-phone line for 5 EUR: are you getting this one from Bommel itself? I had a look around and I have to pay 13 EUR/month for the raw copper when ordering it from EDPnet itself, which I choose to just get one simple bill. Skynet (Belgacom) does it slightly cheaper (11 EUR/month)... and in the end EDPnet just sends someone from Belgacom to enable your line. So a line for 5 EUR seems really cheap.
From the site : "no belgacom fixed line? promo now only *5,00* euro/month extra during the first 12 months (instead of 13,31 euro)" So yes, we are getting this from Bommel, we don't want or need a phone line from Belgacom. Make note that most of the prices are for the first 12 months only, but hey...
-Included is also a .be domain and unlimited mailboxes (according to fair use policy and plus 1 GB web storage). No activation cost if you have a 'friend' who makes you customer, 20 EUR if you don't have friends.
So for EDPnet, I'm paying 42 EUR/month: 29 EUR for the subscription, 13 for the raw copper line.
Seeing that these specs are rather close to the ones you describe, I don't think it's too good to be true. I'm only surprised about the phone line price, so that might be worth a switch for me if things haven't changed next year.
Enjoy, and start downloading,
I will, thanks! ;-)
T.
Sofie
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
From the site : "no belgacom fixed line? promo now only *5,00* euro/month extra during the first 12 months (instead of 13,31 euro)"
So yes, we are getting this from Bommel, we don't want or need a phone line from Belgacom. Make note that most of the prices are for the first 12 months only, but hey...
Seeing that their non-promo price is the same as what I'm paying now, it could quite possibly be the same. As said, I also thought I had ordered a phone line from EDPnet, but it was a Belgacom guy who came to connect it. Possibly Belgacom still has a monopoly on the actual copper line infrastructure? T. -- ================================================================== Thomas Van Parys Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM thomas.vanparys@psb.vib-ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ==================================================================
Thomas Van Parys wrote:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
From the site : "no belgacom fixed line? promo now only *5,00* euro/month extra during the first 12 months (instead of 13,31 euro)"
So yes, we are getting this from Bommel, we don't want or need a phone line from Belgacom. Make note that most of the prices are for the first 12 months only, but hey...
Seeing that their non-promo price is the same as what I'm paying now, it could quite possibly be the same. As said, I also thought I had ordered a phone line from EDPnet, but it was a Belgacom guy who came to connect it. Possibly Belgacom still has a monopoly on the actual copper line infrastructure?
T.
I think they do yes, but as long as I'm only paying for the actual copper and not for a telephone line with a new number etc, it's fine for me :) Sofie
-- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
Thomas Van Parys wrote:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
From the site : "no belgacom fixed line? promo now only *5,00* euro/month extra during the first 12 months (instead of 13,31 euro)"
So yes, we are getting this from Bommel, we don't want or need a phone line from Belgacom. Make note that most of the prices are for the first 12 months only, but hey...
Seeing that their non-promo price is the same as what I'm paying now, it could quite possibly be the same. As said, I also thought I had ordered a phone line from EDPnet, but it was a Belgacom guy who came to connect it. Possibly Belgacom still has a monopoly on the actual copper line infrastructure?
T.
I think they do yes, but as long as I'm only paying for the actual copper and not for a telephone line with a new number etc, it's fine for me :)
They indeed just sell you a basic connection, no services attached. So... my conclusion is that I don't need to change to Bommel, until I see that my 100 GiB limit is insufficient. And if I need to download something after that, I first ask the girl with the 200 limit. Maybe only considering to get my copper line directly from Belgacom, as it's slightly cheaper... only I guess that'll be another hassle. T. -- ================================================================== Thomas Van Parys Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM thomas.vanparys@psb.vib-ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ==================================================================
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Thomas Van Parys wrote:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
From the site : "no belgacom fixed line? promo now only *5,00* euro/month extra during the first 12 months (instead of 13,31 euro)"
So yes, we are getting this from Bommel, we don't want or need a phone line from Belgacom. Make note that most of the prices are for the first 12 months only, but hey...
Seeing that their non-promo price is the same as what I'm paying now, it could quite possibly be the same. As said, I also thought I had ordered a phone line from EDPnet, but it was a Belgacom guy who came to connect it. Possibly Belgacom still has a monopoly on the actual copper line infrastructure?
There's is little information about this subject :/ But it seems fairly logical Belgacom (RTT) has set up all of the copperlines and is still maintaining them at this point. And to be honest, as phonelines are almost a necessity and a public service, it would be a shame if parts of the copperline network would fall 100% into the hands of the industry and was inaccessible for the Belgian gov. The state still owns 50,1% of all shares of Belgacom, so we're safe ;) Ah, the point is that dommel rents the phonelines.
T.
-Kenny -- ================================================================== Kenny Billiau Web Developer Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM kenny.billiau@ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ================================================================== "What we feel isn't important. The only question is what we do." -- Rohl
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
-12 Mbps is indeed the maximum speed you can get with ADSL, unless you live really close to central (<1km). To compare: only with cable (Telenet) you can get up to 15 Mbps. I've read promises about a technical upper limit of 24Mbps, but living within a range of 1km to the central at Sint Pieters station, I think that's exaggerated.
I'm taking this back. Out of curiosity I just called EDPnet to measure out my connection. Apparently the connection has been that stable since the beginning of May that they're now upgrading my line to 20 Mbps. There's a chance this won't work, and then they're falling back to 15 Mbps, which still sounds nice. T. -- ================================================================== Thomas Van Parys Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM thomas.vanparys@psb.vib-ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ==================================================================
Hi, in the meanwhile I'm sharing someone's dommel subscription and i must say it's wonderful. I'm pretty surprised from the speeds i can manage to get. 2.5MB/s on bittorrent, that's more than I used to get when having telenet! But I am living less than 1km from the central access point, maybe I can get the maximum out of the line this way. Also, I'm on the 'no limit' account, so all Star Seasons, here I come ;) Kenny On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Thomas Van Parys wrote:
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
-12 Mbps is indeed the maximum speed you can get with ADSL, unless you live really close to central (<1km). To compare: only with cable (Telenet) you can get up to 15 Mbps. I've read promises about a technical upper limit of 24Mbps, but living within a range of 1km to the central at Sint Pieters station, I think that's exaggerated.
I'm taking this back. Out of curiosity I just called EDPnet to measure out my connection. Apparently the connection has been that stable since the beginning of May that they're now upgrading my line to 20 Mbps. There's a chance this won't work, and then they're falling back to 15 Mbps, which still sounds nice.
T.
-- ================================================================== Kenny Billiau Web Developer Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM kenny.billiau@ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ================================================================== "What we feel isn't important. The only question is what we do." -- Rohl
Kenny Billiau schreef:
Hi,
in the meanwhile I'm sharing someone's dommel subscription and i must say it's wonderful. I'm pretty surprised from the speeds i can manage to get. 2.5MB/s on bittorrent
Do you mean 2,5 Megabit (about 400 kilobyte a second) or really a whopping 2,5 Megabyte a second. If it's the second case I'm gonna call our landlord to convince him switch providers :) , that's more than I used to get when having telenet! But I am living less than 1km from the central access point, maybe I can get the maximum out of the line this way.
Also, I'm on the 'no limit' account, so all Star Seasons, here I come ;)
Kenny
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Thomas Van Parys wrote:
Thomas Van Parys schreef:
-12 Mbps is indeed the maximum speed you can get with ADSL, unless you live really close to central (<1km). To compare: only with cable (Telenet) you can get up to 15 Mbps. I've read promises about a technical upper limit of 24Mbps, but living within a range of 1km to the central at Sint Pieters station, I think that's exaggerated.
I'm taking this back. Out of curiosity I just called EDPnet to measure out my connection. Apparently the connection has been that stable since the beginning of May that they're now upgrading my line to 20 Mbps. There's a chance this won't work, and then they're falling back to 15 Mbps, which still sounds nice.
T.
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