Hi, they made a bit of a mess and now owe a lot of money: http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/cakefest-2009-berlin-venue-dispute And, google did something seriously wrong: http://www.scripting.com/stories/2010/02/14/googleDidSomethingSeriousl.html Kenny -- ================================================================== Kenny Billiau Web Developer Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM kenny.billiau@ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ================================================================== "When we have each other, we have everything" - Douglas P.