[Binari] [Fwd: cluster problems]
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time. What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground. I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off. Sofie -------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be> you can submit jobs again to the cluster frederik -- ================================================================== Frederik Delaere Tel:+32 (0)9 331 38 14 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be http://www.psb.vib-ugent.be ==================================================================
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again. It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is. Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
-- ================================================================== Michiel Van Bel PhD student Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM mibel@psb.vib-ugent.be http://www.psb.vib-ugent.be ==================================================================
Exactly, that's what I thought! Untill I checked my jobs half an hour ago. I've already complained to Frederik about the lack of information and mis-information... Sigh... Sofie Michiel Van Bel schreef:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
We should go an sneeze all over them! On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Michiel Van Bel wrote:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
-- ================================================================== Kenny Billiau Web Developer Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM kenny.billiau@ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ================================================================== "What we feel isn't important. The only question is what we do." -- Rohl
did we not had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours ;-) anyhoe, I'll join the sneezing on IT-trip! Kenny Billiau wrote:
We should go an sneeze all over them!
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Michiel Van Bel wrote:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
No, we had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours IF you plan on submitting hundreds of them. Parsing or classification takes a long time, and can not be parallellised. Or would you expect the classifier to find an optimal solution when only seeing 1/1000th of the instances? 1/1000 of the features? Or the parser to find all grammatical relations when only seeing two words of the sentence? Sofie Lieven Sterck schreef:
did we not had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours ;-)
anyhoe, I'll join the sneezing on IT-trip!
Kenny Billiau wrote:
We should go an sneeze all over them!
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Michiel Van Bel wrote:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
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tuuut :-) Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
No, we had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours IF you plan on submitting hundreds of them. Parsing or classification takes a long time, and can not be parallellised. Or would you expect the classifier to find an optimal solution when only seeing 1/1000th of the instances? 1/1000 of the features? Or the parser to find all grammatical relations when only seeing two words of the sentence?
Sofie
Lieven Sterck schreef:
did we not had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours ;-)
anyhoe, I'll join the sneezing on IT-trip!
Kenny Billiau wrote:
We should go an sneeze all over them!
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Michiel Van Bel wrote:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
Can somebody go and slap Lieven for me? :) Sneezing on him will do too. Tnx! ;-) Sofie Lieven Sterck schreef:
tuuut :-)
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
No, we had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours IF you plan on submitting hundreds of them. Parsing or classification takes a long time, and can not be parallellised. Or would you expect the classifier to find an optimal solution when only seeing 1/1000th of the instances? 1/1000 of the features? Or the parser to find all grammatical relations when only seeing two words of the sentence?
Sofie
Lieven Sterck schreef:
did we not had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours ;-)
anyhoe, I'll join the sneezing on IT-trip!
Kenny Billiau wrote:
We should go an sneeze all over them!
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Michiel Van Bel wrote:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the analyses again on time.
What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the bloody cluster ffs, not a playground.
I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off.
Sofie
-------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: cluster problems Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be>
you can submit jobs again to the cluster
frederik
-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
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I'm going to Kenny, we can meet in the middle! Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
Can somebody go and slap Lieven for me? :) Sneezing on him will do too.
Tnx! ;-)
Sofie
Lieven Sterck schreef:
tuuut :-)
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
No, we had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours IF you plan on submitting hundreds of them. Parsing or classification takes a long time, and can not be parallellised. Or would you expect the classifier to find an optimal solution when only seeing 1/1000th of the instances? 1/1000 of the features? Or the parser to find all grammatical relations when only seeing two words of the sentence?
Sofie
Lieven Sterck schreef:
did we not had to programme in such a way that jobs only run max for a few hours ;-)
anyhoe, I'll join the sneezing on IT-trip!
Kenny Billiau wrote:
We should go an sneeze all over them!
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Michiel Van Bel wrote:
oh, I thought you just couldn't submit new jobs anymore. But apparently the entire cluster went down again.
It's indeed quite strange how unstable the entire cluster often is.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
> This is the second fucking time that the cluster just goes down and > kills jobs that have been running for a week or longer. With only 7 days > to go untill my paper submission deadline, it's impossible to run the > analyses again on time. > > What bothers me is how lightly they deal with it, they don't even tell > you that running jobs stopped, or why the fuck it happened again. > Shouldn't they at least try to garantee uptime? Backup systems? It's the > bloody cluster ffs, not a playground. > > I know I should swear less, but this really pisses me off. > > Sofie > > > -------- Originele bericht -------- > Onderwerp: cluster problems > Datum: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:49:39 +0200 > Van: Frederik Delaere <frlae@psb.vib-ugent.be> > Aan: Biocomp <biocomp@psb.vib-ugent.be> > CC: Luc Van Wiemeersch <luwie@psb.vib-ugent.be> > > > > you can submit jobs again to the cluster > > frederik > > > > >
-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ============================================================== "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try!" - H. Simpson
participants (5)
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Kenny Billiau -
Lieven Sterck -
Michiel Van Bel -
Sebastian Proost -
Sofie Van Landeghem