Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?) Esther. Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
Indeed, that's the reason. Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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OMFG that's terrible! Will reply to this on BEG as well. Sofie Thomas Abeel wrote:
Indeed, that's the reason.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho. Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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Why should I be serving on UGent network every freaking second of my free time? That makes no sense! Sofie Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
surfing... :D Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
Why should I be serving on UGent network every freaking second of my free time? That makes no sense!
Sofie
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
My online games dont work, torrents dont work, its limited so pulling datasets in is a bad idea, its slower since all traffic has to go through the UGent scanners. VPNs for accessing sensitive data, or licensed software or special resource (scientific journals) OK For all other reasons VPNs is just annoying and useless Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
Why should I be serving on UGent network every freaking second of my free time? That makes no sense!
Sofie
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- Sofie Van Landeghem PhD Student VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM Tel: +32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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I'm a webmail fan ;-) Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ============================================================== "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" H. Simpson
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan) lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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I'm in for pine too .. but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/ On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
Hi all,
IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but apparently they misunderstood me.
Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days.
If you want to reach me more reliable: tabeel@broad.mit.edu
cheers, Thomas
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" H. Simpson ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- ================================================================== Kenny Billiau Web Developer Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM kenny.billiau@ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ================================================================== "Never get out of the boat" -- Chef, APN
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird yesterday evening from home??? Hey, that's unfair! (Could we throw something at IT?)
Esther.
Thomas Abeel wrote:
> Hi all, > > IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only > available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to > make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but > apparently they misunderstood me. > > Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the > ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address > on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. > > If you want to reach me more reliable: > tabeel@broad.mit.edu > > cheers, > Thomas > > > _______________________________________________ Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" H. Simpson ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ============================================================== "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" H. Simpson
meh, solution found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_tunneling http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example091... just use the cisco vpn client software, and configure it so that thunderbird goes through the vpn, and all other programs through the "normal" network. Haven't tried it yet, but it might work i think :/ lieven sterck wrote:
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L
Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much of an issue imho.
Esther-Kristin Lather wrote:
> Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird > yesterday evening from home??? > Hey, that's unfair! > (Could we throw something at IT?) > > Esther. > > Thomas Abeel wrote: > > > >> Hi all, >> >> IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only >> available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to >> make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but >> apparently they misunderstood me. >> >> Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the >> ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address >> on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. >> >> If you want to reach me more reliable: >> tabeel@broad.mit.edu >> >> cheers, >> Thomas >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations > https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari > > >
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" H. Simpson ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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Thats a technical solution to a policy problem. That's only a very last resort. Michiel Van Bel wrote:
meh, solution found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_tunneling http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example091...
just use the cisco vpn client software, and configure it so that thunderbird goes through the vpn, and all other programs through the "normal" network. Haven't tried it yet, but it might work i think :/
lieven sterck wrote:
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L
Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
> This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not > that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be > a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much > of an issue imho. > > > Esther-Kristin Lather wrote: > > >> Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird >> yesterday evening from home??? >> Hey, that's unfair! >> (Could we throw something at IT?) >> >> Esther. >> >> Thomas Abeel wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only >>> available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to >>> make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but >>> apparently they misunderstood me. >>> >>> Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the >>> ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address >>> on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. >>> >>> If you want to reach me more reliable: >>> tabeel@broad.mit.edu >>> >>> cheers, >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations >> https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
============================================================== "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" H. Simpson ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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Why should my private emails go through the UGent network? Sofie Michiel Van Bel wrote:
meh, solution found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_tunneling http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example091...
just use the cisco vpn client software, and configure it so that thunderbird goes through the vpn, and all other programs through the "normal" network. Haven't tried it yet, but it might work i think :/
lieven sterck wrote:
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L
Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
> This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not > that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be > a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much > of an issue imho. > > > Esther-Kristin Lather wrote: > > > >> Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird >> yesterday evening from home??? >> Hey, that's unfair! >> (Could we throw something at IT?) >> >> Esther. >> >> Thomas Abeel wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only >>> available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to >>> make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but >>> apparently they misunderstood me. >>> >>> Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the >>> ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address >>> on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. >>> >>> If you want to reach me more reliable: >>> tabeel@broad.mit.edu >>> >>> cheers, >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations >> https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Why shouldn't they go through the UGent network? ;-) No seriously, VPN's are based on the ipsec-protocol, so the risk of snooping is pretty low. On the other hand, the normal mails (gmail, whatever) will be send in plain-text across the network of your provider. Ok, if the UGent itself decides to start snooping on all traffic we might have a problem, but i don't think this is the case (yet?). Michiel, seriously going in against groupthinking, just because it's fun :p Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
Why should my private emails go through the UGent network?
Sofie
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
meh, solution found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_tunneling http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example091...
just use the cisco vpn client software, and configure it so that thunderbird goes through the vpn, and all other programs through the "normal" network. Haven't tried it yet, but it might work i think :/
lieven sterck wrote:
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L
Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
I'm a webmail fan ;-)
Nathalie Pochet wrote:
> as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for > me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail > > Michiel Van Bel wrote: > > >> This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not >> that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be >> a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much >> of an issue imho. >> >> >> Esther-Kristin Lather wrote: >> >> >> >>> Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird >>> yesterday evening from home??? >>> Hey, that's unfair! >>> (Could we throw something at IT?) >>> >>> Esther. >>> >>> Thomas Abeel wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only >>>> available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to >>>> make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but >>>> apparently they misunderstood me. >>>> >>>> Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the >>>> ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address >>>> on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. >>>> >>>> If you want to reach me more reliable: >>>> tabeel@broad.mit.edu >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Thomas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations >>> https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations > https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari > > > -- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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You're full of crap and you know it ;-) Sofie Michiel Van Bel wrote:
Why shouldn't they go through the UGent network? ;-) No seriously, VPN's are based on the ipsec-protocol, so the risk of snooping is pretty low. On the other hand, the normal mails (gmail, whatever) will be send in plain-text across the network of your provider. Ok, if the UGent itself decides to start snooping on all traffic we might have a problem, but i don't think this is the case (yet?).
Michiel, seriously going in against groupthinking, just because it's fun :p
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
Why should my private emails go through the UGent network?
Sofie
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
meh, solution found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_tunneling http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example091...
just use the cisco vpn client software, and configure it so that thunderbird goes through the vpn, and all other programs through the "normal" network. Haven't tried it yet, but it might work i think :/
lieven sterck wrote:
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L
Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan)
lieven sterck wrote:
> I'm a webmail fan ;-) > > Nathalie Pochet wrote: > > > >> as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for >> me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail >> >> Michiel Van Bel wrote: >> >> >> >>> This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not >>> that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be >>> a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much >>> of an issue imho. >>> >>> >>> Esther-Kristin Lather wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird >>>> yesterday evening from home??? >>>> Hey, that's unfair! >>>> (Could we throw something at IT?) >>>> >>>> Esther. >>>> >>>> Thomas Abeel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only >>>>> available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to >>>>> make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but >>>>> apparently they misunderstood me. >>>>> >>>>> Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the >>>>> ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address >>>>> on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. >>>>> >>>>> If you want to reach me more reliable: >>>>> tabeel@broad.mit.edu >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> Thomas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations >>>> https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations >> https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari >> >> >> >> > -- > ============================================================== > Lieven Sterck, PhD > > Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 > VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent > Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division > Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium > Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be > Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be > > ============================================================== > "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even > remotely true!" H. Simpson > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Binari Implicitly Neglects All Recursive Iterations > https://maillist.psb.ugent.be/mailman/listinfo/binari > > > >
-- ============================================================== Lieven Sterck, PhD
Tel:+32 (0)9 3313821 Fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, UGent Bioinformatics and Evolutionary Genomics Division Technologiepark 927, B-9052 Gent, Belgium Email: lieven.sterck@psb.vib-ugent.be Website: http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be
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Sofie Van Landeghem schreef:
You're full of crap and you know it ;-)
Sofie
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
Why shouldn't they go through the UGent network? ;-) No seriously, VPN's are based on the ipsec-protocol, so the risk of snooping is pretty low. On the other hand, the normal mails (gmail, whatever) will be send in plain-text across the network of your provider. Ok, if the UGent itself decides to start snooping on all traffic we might have a problem, but i don't think this is the case (yet?).
Michiel, seriously going in against groupthinking, just because it's fun :p
While this might be slightly paranoia, and UGent is a bunch of nice guys, sending all your private communication through your employer's network doesn't sound like the greatest idea. Tinfoil Head T.
Sofie Van Landeghem wrote:
Why should my private emails go through the UGent network?
Sofie
Michiel Van Bel wrote:
meh, solution found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_tunneling http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/products_configuration_example091...
just use the cisco vpn client software, and configure it so that thunderbird goes through the vpn, and all other programs through the "normal" network. Haven't tried it yet, but it might work i think :/
lieven sterck wrote:
Then there are a couple of dead-man walking in the IT room :-L
Kenny Billiau wrote:
I'm in for pine too ..
but the next thing they're gonna drop is the ssh access :/
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, lieven sterck wrote:
> or pine :-D (isn't it Yvan) > > lieven sterck wrote: > > > >> I'm a webmail fan ;-) >> >> Nathalie Pochet wrote: >> >> >> >>> as I'm already doing VPN across the ocean to Broad, it's impossible for >>> me to do VPN to Ghent as well, and I refuse to use webmail >>> >>> Michiel Van Bel wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> This might not really be a popular opinion here, but it's really not >>>> that hard to create a vpn connection, is it? I understand it might be >>>> a bit across the ocean, but here in flanders it's not really that much >>>> of an issue imho. >>>> >>>> >>>> Esther-Kristin Lather wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Is this the reason why I couldn't access my mail with Thunderbird >>>>> yesterday evening from home??? >>>>> Hey, that's unfair! >>>>> (Could we throw something at IT?) >>>>> >>>>> Esther. >>>>> >>>>> Thomas Abeel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> IT downstairs has a new policy. The IMAP mailserver is only >>>>>> available from within the UGent VPN or from webmail. I asked to >>>>>> make the SMTP server also available outside the VPN, but >>>>>> apparently they misunderstood me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Webmail is too much of a hassle and the VPN is too slow over the >>>>>> ocean. As such, I will no longer be checking this e-mail address >>>>>> on a regular basis, maybe just once every few days. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want to reach me more reliable: >>>>>> tabeel@broad.mit.edu >>>>>>
-- ================================================================== Thomas Van Parys Tel:+32 (0)9 331 36 95 fax:+32 (0)9 3313809 VIB Department of Plant Systems Biology, Ghent University Technologiepark 927, 9052 Gent, BELGIUM thomas.vanparys@psb.vib-ugent.be http://bioinformatics.psb.ugent.be ==================================================================
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